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		<title>By: IndianTaxConsultant</title>
		<link>http://expertdabbler.com/2008/02/26/income-tax-loopholes/#comment-42186</link>
		<author>IndianTaxConsultant</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 17:32:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and the best part is income tax guys cant say a thing on this practice because you are actually declaring income. They cant say you didnt earn this income</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and the best part is income tax guys cant say a thing on this practice because you are actually declaring income. They cant say you didnt earn this income</p>
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		<title>By: prabukarthik</title>
		<link>http://expertdabbler.com/2008/02/26/income-tax-loopholes/#comment-35535</link>
		<author>prabukarthik</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 16:53:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chennaivaasi,

Welcome to my blog. 

Thanks for these URLs.

There are two cases:
a)Sec. 24 deductions when the property is self occupied, and
b) when the property is let out.

In pure lay man's terms, the sec 24 deduction is subject to a maximum cap of Rs. 1,50,000 when the property is declared as self occupied. 

But in case of property let out, the entire interest component ,even if it exceeds Rs.1,50,000 is deductible 
(unga style la sollanumna negative income 'added' to the salary). the only condition is income from such let out property will be charged to income tax. which shud be okay if i can claim 3,00,000 and add a nominal rent of 3,000 per month.

http://sify.com/finance/fullstory.php?id=14196378

&gt;&gt;I am NOT a Tax consultant....

Please ask your Tax consultant about this:-)

In those URLs.
i was not able to find a provision which explicitly states one cannot claim HRA if he is claiming deductions under sec. 24

What if i have built a house in coimbatore, and now am living in a rented accomodation in chennai? You mean to say i cannot claim HRA??

http://www.rediff.com/getahead/2005/apr/25home.htm

Thanks for your suggestion to examine my head. Double-checking is always good, be it head or facts :)

Oh yeah, thanks for the reward offer too :) Sorry i am not in the business of proving myself  to all and sundry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chennaivaasi,</p>
<p>Welcome to my blog. </p>
<p>Thanks for these URLs.</p>
<p>There are two cases:<br />
a)Sec. 24 deductions when the property is self occupied, and<br />
b) when the property is let out.</p>
<p>In pure lay man&#8217;s terms, the sec 24 deduction is subject to a maximum cap of Rs. 1,50,000 when the property is declared as self occupied. </p>
<p>But in case of property let out, the entire interest component ,even if it exceeds Rs.1,50,000 is deductible<br />
(unga style la sollanumna negative income &#8216;added&#8217; to the salary). the only condition is income from such let out property will be charged to income tax. which shud be okay if i can claim 3,00,000 and add a nominal rent of 3,000 per month.</p>
<p><a href="http://sify.com/finance/fullstory.php?id=14196378" rel="nofollow">http://sify.com/finance/fullstory.php?id=14196378</a></p>
<p>>>I am NOT a Tax consultant&#8230;.</p>
<p>Please ask your Tax consultant about this:-)</p>
<p>In those URLs.<br />
i was not able to find a provision which explicitly states one cannot claim HRA if he is claiming deductions under sec. 24</p>
<p>What if i have built a house in coimbatore, and now am living in a rented accomodation in chennai? You mean to say i cannot claim HRA??</p>
<p><a href="http://www.rediff.com/getahead/2005/apr/25home.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.rediff.com/getahead/2005/apr/25home.htm</a></p>
<p>Thanks for your suggestion to examine my head. Double-checking is always good, be it head or facts <img src='http://expertdabbler.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Oh yeah, thanks for the reward offer too <img src='http://expertdabbler.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> Sorry i am not in the business of proving myself  to all and sundry.</p>
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		<title>By: ChennaiVaasi</title>
		<link>http://expertdabbler.com/2008/02/26/income-tax-loopholes/#comment-35529</link>
		<author>ChennaiVaasi</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 14:17:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://expertdabbler.com/2008/02/26/income-tax-loopholes/#comment-35529</guid>
		<description>Hey! you need to get your head examined!! I'm referring to the so called ingenious scheme of your . If this is true tax consultants would be making n(more) bonanzas.

Pls check your facts.

What you are calculating is the 'Income chargagble under 'Income from house property' (Section 24 of the IT act.

Annual value refers to the Rental value or rent recieved less by municipal taxes paid. In case of self occupied it is NIL (Ref Sec 23 of IT Act) 
http://law.incometaxindia.gov.in/DitTaxmann/IncomeTaxActs/2007ITAct/section23.htm

The income chargeable to you from House propertyis the Annual value arrived at as above, less 30% (maintenance charges) and IS FURTHER REDUCED by the amount of Housing Loan interest. Hence your Income from House Property could be NEGATIVE if you had paid housing loan interest.

This negative amount is 'added' to your total income (which includes your Salary income) thus essentially reducing your total income by the amount of Housing loan interest paid by you (This is the Sec 24). HOWEVER Sec 24 limits the amount of deduction to Rs.1,50,000/- (Rs. 30,000 if property was build before 1st April 1999).
Sec 24: http://law.incometaxindia.gov.in/DitTaxmann/IncomeTaxActs/2007ITAct/section24.htm 

I am NOT a Tax consultant , but have been paying (and researching) the IT Act for years and years now.

Moreover, When you are claiming house rent loan deduction, you are specifically mentioning that you are not claiming HRA deductions. So anyone doing both is potentially liable for criminal prosecution!

For details (from the horses mouth) go to http://law.incometaxindia.gov.in/TaxmannDit/Displaypage/dpage1.aspx?md=2&#38;typ=cn&#38;yr=2007&#38;chp=37

If what you say is true - pls let me know who does this - I will reward you (and get benefitted myself)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey! you need to get your head examined!! I&#8217;m referring to the so called ingenious scheme of your . If this is true tax consultants would be making n(more) bonanzas.</p>
<p>Pls check your facts.</p>
<p>What you are calculating is the &#8216;Income chargagble under &#8216;Income from house property&#8217; (Section 24 of the IT act.</p>
<p>Annual value refers to the Rental value or rent recieved less by municipal taxes paid. In case of self occupied it is NIL (Ref Sec 23 of IT Act)<br />
<a href="http://law.incometaxindia.gov.in/DitTaxmann/IncomeTaxActs/2007ITAct/section23.htm" rel="nofollow">http://law.incometaxindia.gov.in/DitTaxmann/IncomeTaxActs/2007ITAct/section23.htm</a></p>
<p>The income chargeable to you from House propertyis the Annual value arrived at as above, less 30% (maintenance charges) and IS FURTHER REDUCED by the amount of Housing Loan interest. Hence your Income from House Property could be NEGATIVE if you had paid housing loan interest.</p>
<p>This negative amount is &#8216;added&#8217; to your total income (which includes your Salary income) thus essentially reducing your total income by the amount of Housing loan interest paid by you (This is the Sec 24). HOWEVER Sec 24 limits the amount of deduction to Rs.1,50,000/- (Rs. 30,000 if property was build before 1st April 1999).<br />
Sec 24: <a href="http://law.incometaxindia.gov.in/DitTaxmann/IncomeTaxActs/2007ITAct/section24.htm" rel="nofollow">http://law.incometaxindia.gov.in/DitTaxmann/IncomeTaxActs/2007ITAct/section24.htm</a> </p>
<p>I am NOT a Tax consultant , but have been paying (and researching) the IT Act for years and years now.</p>
<p>Moreover, When you are claiming house rent loan deduction, you are specifically mentioning that you are not claiming HRA deductions. So anyone doing both is potentially liable for criminal prosecution!</p>
<p>For details (from the horses mouth) go to <a href="http://law.incometaxindia.gov.in/TaxmannDit/Displaypage/dpage1.aspx?md=2&amp;typ=cn&amp;yr=2007&amp;chp=37" rel="nofollow">http://law.incometaxindia.gov.in/TaxmannDit/Displaypage/dpage1.aspx?md=2&amp;typ=cn&amp;yr=2007&amp;chp=37</a></p>
<p>If what you say is true - pls let me know who does this - I will reward you (and get benefitted myself)</p>
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		<title>By: prabukarthik</title>
		<link>http://expertdabbler.com/2008/02/26/income-tax-loopholes/#comment-34754</link>
		<author>prabukarthik</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 03:17:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>monu,
nandri for this advice :)

XYZ,
maybe. that adutiting each and every tax return is well nigh impossible me thinks. 

Gopi, 
Its all relative to the standards you keep da. What's your devil's cap may still be better than sombody's divine cap :). 
And that standard is evolving day by day for each invididual in each aspect of life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>monu,<br />
nandri for this advice <img src='http://expertdabbler.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>XYZ,<br />
maybe. that adutiting each and every tax return is well nigh impossible me thinks. </p>
<p>Gopi,<br />
Its all relative to the standards you keep da. What&#8217;s your devil&#8217;s cap may still be better than sombody&#8217;s divine cap :).<br />
And that standard is evolving day by day for each invididual in each aspect of life.</p>
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		<title>By: xyz</title>
		<link>http://expertdabbler.com/2008/02/26/income-tax-loopholes/#comment-34523</link>
		<author>xyz</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 21:45:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://expertdabbler.com/2008/02/26/income-tax-loopholes/#comment-34523</guid>
		<description>IT Dept should audit if they want to net the tax. If they do not do their job, there will always be evaders! Also, I am not trying to justify the greed of tax evaders.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IT Dept should audit if they want to net the tax. If they do not do their job, there will always be evaders! Also, I am not trying to justify the greed of tax evaders.</p>
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		<title>By: monu</title>
		<link>http://expertdabbler.com/2008/02/26/income-tax-loopholes/#comment-34488</link>
		<author>monu</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 04:34:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>knowledge shoudla lways be put to you
so i suggest you put this knowledge of yours to use soon
:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>knowledge shoudla lways be put to you<br />
so i suggest you put this knowledge of yours to use soon<br />
 <img src='http://expertdabbler.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: prabukarthik</title>
		<link>http://expertdabbler.com/2008/02/26/income-tax-loopholes/#comment-34482</link>
		<author>prabukarthik</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 04:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://expertdabbler.com/2008/02/26/income-tax-loopholes/#comment-34482</guid>
		<description>dei gopi,

Enga team laye naan dhaan highest tax payer, getting the same exact salary as everyone :(

That should give you an idea :)

And i don't even claim i have been 100% absolute honesty personified guy in the past on tax issues...ellarum panraanga naanum pannaren nu idhu madhiri vera sila velaigal pannirukken.. 

Aana indha alavuku ella tax provisions um use panni chartered accountants ke thanni kaatraanga makkal..

Having said that our tax provisions motivates you to be like that. 
How long will it take for the law to be amended to say, the exemption limit will be increased from 1,50,000 by only the actual rent received? 

seri salaried class indha alavuku dhaan panna mudiyum nu poga vendiyadhu dhaan!

Another thinking i have in this point is, this is rampant among otherwise very decent folks. So, either they are disillusioned with the system
or
Tax evasion in india does not start from the high ncome earning business men or politicans. Almost everyone will cheat if given an option.

Namba DNA laye 'greater common good' factor ellam illai nu ninaikiren.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dei gopi,</p>
<p>Enga team laye naan dhaan highest tax payer, getting the same exact salary as everyone <img src='http://expertdabbler.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>That should give you an idea <img src='http://expertdabbler.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>And i don&#8217;t even claim i have been 100% absolute honesty personified guy in the past on tax issues&#8230;ellarum panraanga naanum pannaren nu idhu madhiri vera sila velaigal pannirukken.. </p>
<p>Aana indha alavuku ella tax provisions um use panni chartered accountants ke thanni kaatraanga makkal..</p>
<p>Having said that our tax provisions motivates you to be like that.<br />
How long will it take for the law to be amended to say, the exemption limit will be increased from 1,50,000 by only the actual rent received? </p>
<p>seri salaried class indha alavuku dhaan panna mudiyum nu poga vendiyadhu dhaan!</p>
<p>Another thinking i have in this point is, this is rampant among otherwise very decent folks. So, either they are disillusioned with the system<br />
or<br />
Tax evasion in india does not start from the high ncome earning business men or politicans. Almost everyone will cheat if given an option.</p>
<p>Namba DNA laye &#8216;greater common good&#8217; factor ellam illai nu ninaikiren.</p>
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		<title>By: Gopinath Sundharam</title>
		<link>http://expertdabbler.com/2008/02/26/income-tax-loopholes/#comment-34479</link>
		<author>Gopinath Sundharam</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 02:54:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you one of the "kepmaari" makkals.. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you one of the &#8220;kepmaari&#8221; makkals.. <img src='http://expertdabbler.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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