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		<title>By: prabukarthik</title>
		<link>http://expertdabbler.com/2008/08/17/thaneer-vitto-valarthom-1/#comment-49007</link>
		<author>prabukarthik</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 03:51:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bennita

Your decision.. fair enough.. Thanks for reading my blog till now.</description>
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<p>Your decision.. fair enough.. Thanks for reading my blog till now.</p>
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		<title>By: prabukarthik</title>
		<link>http://expertdabbler.com/2008/08/17/thaneer-vitto-valarthom-1/#comment-49003</link>
		<author>prabukarthik</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 02:55:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PB

I agree :)  nandri hai! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PB</p>
<p>I agree <img src='http://expertdabbler.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  nandri hai! <img src='http://expertdabbler.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: PB</title>
		<link>http://expertdabbler.com/2008/08/17/thaneer-vitto-valarthom-1/#comment-48997</link>
		<author>PB</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 01:44:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr.Gurumurthi will make you think whether or not you agree with him. He is arguably far right person. Right is better than useless left. 
BTW good article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr.Gurumurthi will make you think whether or not you agree with him. He is arguably far right person. Right is better than useless left.<br />
BTW good article.</p>
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		<title>By: Bennita</title>
		<link>http://expertdabbler.com/2008/08/17/thaneer-vitto-valarthom-1/#comment-48974</link>
		<author>Bennita</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 20:12:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am x'ian and used to read your blod thinking to myself here is one sensible person so easy to read and also so informative and down to earth but ......your comment on christianity ..total humbug .its your blog I know you can write whatever comes to your mind anyway I am removing you from my blog list..so much for thinking your is a good read !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am x&#8217;ian and used to read your blod thinking to myself here is one sensible person so easy to read and also so informative and down to earth but &#8230;&#8230;your comment on christianity ..total humbug .its your blog I know you can write whatever comes to your mind anyway I am removing you from my blog list..so much for thinking your is a good read !</p>
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		<title>By: prabukarthik</title>
		<link>http://expertdabbler.com/2008/08/17/thaneer-vitto-valarthom-1/#comment-48969</link>
		<author>prabukarthik</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 19:09:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nama avarai PM ku adviser range ku pesitu irukkom.. idhuku per dhaan nera kodumai ngradhu..

mani ratnam mogam yaarayum vittu vaikka villai.
I wish mani makes better  films (than what he has dished out in his recent efforts) at least for the sake of this mogam...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nama avarai PM ku adviser range ku pesitu irukkom.. idhuku per dhaan nera kodumai ngradhu..</p>
<p>mani ratnam mogam yaarayum vittu vaikka villai.<br />
I wish mani makes better  films (than what he has dished out in his recent efforts) at least for the sake of this mogam&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: BNB</title>
		<link>http://expertdabbler.com/2008/08/17/thaneer-vitto-valarthom-1/#comment-48964</link>
		<author>BNB</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:19:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, one more bittu from gurumurthy.net

"Gurumurthy was portrayed as a fictional reporter character, Shyam Saxena, by actor R. Madhavan in Mani Ratnam's film, Guru (2007 film)."

http://www.gurumurthy.net/about.pl</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, one more bittu from gurumurthy.net</p>
<p>&#8220;Gurumurthy was portrayed as a fictional reporter character, Shyam Saxena, by actor R. Madhavan in Mani Ratnam&#8217;s film, Guru (2007 film).&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.gurumurthy.net/about.pl" rel="nofollow">http://www.gurumurthy.net/about.pl</a></p>
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		<title>By: prabukarthik</title>
		<link>http://expertdabbler.com/2008/08/17/thaneer-vitto-valarthom-1/#comment-48959</link>
		<author>prabukarthik</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 15:59:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BNB

Precisely!

Naan mattuma arai gurai..matter kelunga

Enakku rembo naala indha WTO, GATT la ellam enna iruku nu oru arippu. 
Appo appo Doha round, andha round indha round nu poraangale, apdi enna dhaan pesaraanga, edhai pathi sandai nu ellam oru blog post poda kooda matter theriyalai...engeyavadhu andha draft kedaikadha nu ellam feel pannirukken...

Matter enna na CII madhiri bodies ku kooda idhu edhuvum mulusa theriyalai. Summa WTO na udane, adhai varaverthu arikkai vitrukku CII once upon a time.

Gurumurthy oru conference la CII makkal kitte."WTO matter kitta thatta 20,000 pages adangina draft, idhai pathi mulusa research panna edhavadhu expert team nominate panniruka nu ketta, pin drop silence aam! 

Aaga, matter enna nu theriyamale welcome panni arikkai vitrukaanga CII.. idhu yedho local politician illai, Industry kum Govt kum irukara main interface body. Oru nimisham aadi poitten, 'ada paavigala oru vetti blogger ku irukara akkarai kooda ungalukku illaye' nu thonuchu...

So namba araiguraya irundhalo Gurumurthy PM ku adviser a irundhalo thappe illai :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BNB</p>
<p>Precisely!</p>
<p>Naan mattuma arai gurai..matter kelunga</p>
<p>Enakku rembo naala indha WTO, GATT la ellam enna iruku nu oru arippu.<br />
Appo appo Doha round, andha round indha round nu poraangale, apdi enna dhaan pesaraanga, edhai pathi sandai nu ellam oru blog post poda kooda matter theriyalai&#8230;engeyavadhu andha draft kedaikadha nu ellam feel pannirukken&#8230;</p>
<p>Matter enna na CII madhiri bodies ku kooda idhu edhuvum mulusa theriyalai. Summa WTO na udane, adhai varaverthu arikkai vitrukku CII once upon a time.</p>
<p>Gurumurthy oru conference la CII makkal kitte.&#8221;WTO matter kitta thatta 20,000 pages adangina draft, idhai pathi mulusa research panna edhavadhu expert team nominate panniruka nu ketta, pin drop silence aam! </p>
<p>Aaga, matter enna nu theriyamale welcome panni arikkai vitrukaanga CII.. idhu yedho local politician illai, Industry kum Govt kum irukara main interface body. Oru nimisham aadi poitten, &#8216;ada paavigala oru vetti blogger ku irukara akkarai kooda ungalukku illaye&#8217; nu thonuchu&#8230;</p>
<p>So namba araiguraya irundhalo Gurumurthy PM ku adviser a irundhalo thappe illai <img src='http://expertdabbler.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: BNB</title>
		<link>http://expertdabbler.com/2008/08/17/thaneer-vitto-valarthom-1/#comment-48933</link>
		<author>BNB</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 10:47:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bossu,
BTW, I didn't mean to imply that you opinions were half-baked. Just middle class opinions in general. But we can't help being half-baked due to what we consume. To get to the root of any matter one must look for multiple channels of information - half of the time it's opinions masquerading as information. This whole notion of 'one true source' work out aagadhu, except for the readers of 'The Hindu' :-). I think his insights are deeply valuable in many cases being grounded in local concerns and knowledge.

About his analysis of Abrahamic religions, I agree - he does a very good job. Again like you say, that doesn't mean one should agree with everything he says.  Come to think of it he is quite normal -  a complicated cocktail of opinions, prejuidices, etc. It's up to us to filter out the crap. 

To summarize, (sirippai adakki kollavum), if I were to become the Prime Minister, I might have Gurumurthy as one of my advisors despite severe disagreements with lots of his opinions. :-D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bossu,<br />
BTW, I didn&#8217;t mean to imply that you opinions were half-baked. Just middle class opinions in general. But we can&#8217;t help being half-baked due to what we consume. To get to the root of any matter one must look for multiple channels of information - half of the time it&#8217;s opinions masquerading as information. This whole notion of &#8216;one true source&#8217; work out aagadhu, except for the readers of &#8216;The Hindu&#8217; :-). I think his insights are deeply valuable in many cases being grounded in local concerns and knowledge.</p>
<p>About his analysis of Abrahamic religions, I agree - he does a very good job. Again like you say, that doesn&#8217;t mean one should agree with everything he says.  Come to think of it he is quite normal -  a complicated cocktail of opinions, prejuidices, etc. It&#8217;s up to us to filter out the crap. </p>
<p>To summarize, (sirippai adakki kollavum), if I were to become the Prime Minister, I might have Gurumurthy as one of my advisors despite severe disagreements with lots of his opinions. <img src='http://expertdabbler.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':-D' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: prabukarthik</title>
		<link>http://expertdabbler.com/2008/08/17/thaneer-vitto-valarthom-1/#comment-48838</link>
		<author>prabukarthik</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 15:48:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BNB

I agree. Jaadhi, harijans pathi ivaru solradhu ellam konjam comedy dhaan. He lacks sensitivity. Dalits politics ku varadhai indirect a discourage panraar. idhai solradhuku ivaruku urimai illai. brahmins um padicha mel thattu makkal varadhukum ivar ipdi solvaara theriyalai.

kudumba amaipugal.. pen sudhandhiram.. well idhai pathi ennoda opinions a melaye solliten. ivar opinions ellam ivar sarndhirukara community ponnungale othuka maataanga kandippa.

Nevertheless i liked this book for the following reasons:
- He is very clear in his views on abrahamic religions. I agree with his take. Not many intellectuals can say that. That does not mean I support BJP or Sangh Parivar. Adhu vera matter.
- As you already acknowledged, his insight on economic issues are pretty original.
- More than restricting himself to criticizing everybody which most intellectuals do, he is proposing a framework, however flawed that might be. That takes him a notch above those who indulge in empty criticism.

India va pathi enakku sila ideas undu. enakku siladhu avaroda views oda othupogudhu.. siladhu idikudhu - especially his take on women, community..

mathabadi kandippa disciple aagara idea laam enakku illai :)

chaat item nalla analogy :)

&gt;&gt;our half baked middle class opinions

naanum rembo naal apdi dhaan nenachen.. namakku onnum theriyadhu...nu.. aprom dhaan theriyudhu pathirikai la eludhura so called arivu jeevis um apdi dhaan nu...

only the class varies, the half-baked quality remains constant :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BNB</p>
<p>I agree. Jaadhi, harijans pathi ivaru solradhu ellam konjam comedy dhaan. He lacks sensitivity. Dalits politics ku varadhai indirect a discourage panraar. idhai solradhuku ivaruku urimai illai. brahmins um padicha mel thattu makkal varadhukum ivar ipdi solvaara theriyalai.</p>
<p>kudumba amaipugal.. pen sudhandhiram.. well idhai pathi ennoda opinions a melaye solliten. ivar opinions ellam ivar sarndhirukara community ponnungale othuka maataanga kandippa.</p>
<p>Nevertheless i liked this book for the following reasons:<br />
- He is very clear in his views on abrahamic religions. I agree with his take. Not many intellectuals can say that. That does not mean I support BJP or Sangh Parivar. Adhu vera matter.<br />
- As you already acknowledged, his insight on economic issues are pretty original.<br />
- More than restricting himself to criticizing everybody which most intellectuals do, he is proposing a framework, however flawed that might be. That takes him a notch above those who indulge in empty criticism.</p>
<p>India va pathi enakku sila ideas undu. enakku siladhu avaroda views oda othupogudhu.. siladhu idikudhu - especially his take on women, community..</p>
<p>mathabadi kandippa disciple aagara idea laam enakku illai <img src='http://expertdabbler.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>chaat item nalla analogy <img src='http://expertdabbler.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>>>our half baked middle class opinions</p>
<p>naanum rembo naal apdi dhaan nenachen.. namakku onnum theriyadhu&#8230;nu.. aprom dhaan theriyudhu pathirikai la eludhura so called arivu jeevis um apdi dhaan nu&#8230;</p>
<p>only the class varies, the half-baked quality remains constant <img src='http://expertdabbler.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: BNB</title>
		<link>http://expertdabbler.com/2008/08/17/thaneer-vitto-valarthom-1/#comment-48823</link>
		<author>BNB</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 13:45:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree his take on economics is refreshing - he looks at it from a cultural perspective as well. He once made a very good observation about the rise of previously backward castes in businesses in TN. He travels extensively and many of his views are formed with first hand opinion - not something that you can say about lots of otherlike Cho.

But he too often succumbs to the tempatation to be Mr.Know-All, who after brief visits to America can pass irritating snap judgements on lack of family values in the US etc. Like most Madras mamas he suffers from the TON (Tip of the Nose) syndrome - that's about as far his horizon extends. He has been an RSS member for a very long time and his pro-North-indian brahmin prejuidices are clear enough to any reader. While he has carried on a crusade against Reliance, he is uncomfortably close to lots of business groups like the Bajajs, and to politicans like Sharad Pawar. 


He can talk till the cows go home about agriculture, but he can't get his friend Sharad Pawar to do anything about farmer suicides in Maharashtra. Perhaps therein lies the limitations of people like Gurumurthy. 


One shouldn't read talking heads with a view to becoming his/her disciple or fanboy. Inga Konjam, Anga Konjam ... our half baked middle class opinions are also like Chaat items.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree his take on economics is refreshing - he looks at it from a cultural perspective as well. He once made a very good observation about the rise of previously backward castes in businesses in TN. He travels extensively and many of his views are formed with first hand opinion - not something that you can say about lots of otherlike Cho.</p>
<p>But he too often succumbs to the tempatation to be Mr.Know-All, who after brief visits to America can pass irritating snap judgements on lack of family values in the US etc. Like most Madras mamas he suffers from the TON (Tip of the Nose) syndrome - that&#8217;s about as far his horizon extends. He has been an RSS member for a very long time and his pro-North-indian brahmin prejuidices are clear enough to any reader. While he has carried on a crusade against Reliance, he is uncomfortably close to lots of business groups like the Bajajs, and to politicans like Sharad Pawar. </p>
<p>He can talk till the cows go home about agriculture, but he can&#8217;t get his friend Sharad Pawar to do anything about farmer suicides in Maharashtra. Perhaps therein lies the limitations of people like Gurumurthy. </p>
<p>One shouldn&#8217;t read talking heads with a view to becoming his/her disciple or fanboy. Inga Konjam, Anga Konjam &#8230; our half baked middle class opinions are also like Chaat items.</p>
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