Comments on: India 2020 - wishful thinking http://expertdabbler.com/2008/10/15/india-2020-wishful-thinking/ Rombo nallavan Tue, 22 May 2012 20:02:01 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.1 By: prabukarthik http://expertdabbler.com/2008/10/15/india-2020-wishful-thinking/#comment-54863 prabukarthik Thu, 16 Oct 2008 14:53:27 +0000 http://expertdabbler.com/2008/10/15/india-2020-wishful-thinking/#comment-54863 Subha The perfect way to bring a level playing field in education would've been mentoring and close interaction without any reference to a person's community, caste.... apparently this does not happen in small towns and rural areas. Four days back, i was fixing my chappal in my native place... The guy who fixed it was talking to a friend about a wedding he did not go... the reason he gave for not attending was 'jaadhi vidyasam parpanga'.. he did not say to me.. it was a casual remark .... but thats the reality. If he does not expect fair treatment in a wedding, how is he going to interact with the rest of the population and gain knowledge and information? I've had views similar to yours sometime back. I am not so sure anymore. I know about people from Bihar who had cleared IIT-JEE... but those seem to be exceptions rather than the rule.. Even there the students had active mentoring... I've heard this argument about the number of years it has been in force. Its not as if all other initiatives had progressed at desired pace in India. Unrelated note: Check out the Wiki for Chennai MRTS. It had taken 24 years to build a tardy, incomplete MRTS for a city. So that's a taste of how fast and effective things work. The person should've been at least 50. I don't think his son or daughter could compete with my cousin who is in Bangalore. Exceptions are not the norms. Regarding Religion, Religious conversions and terror do get sanctity and support from religious schools. Though it is true that religion especially Hinduism and Buddhism keeps the masses dormant, peaceful in India. I am not against religion. But I am against according it a level higher than ordinary folks and keeping it closer to the powers that be. Religious institutions has political dimensions IMHO. Indian history do have examples where religious heads had been close to the rulers who had committed grave atrocities with the full sanction of these religious heads. Philosophy, literature, spirituality etc are a different ball game. Like what Indira Parthasarathy says in Vedapurathu Vyabarigal, religion, politics, cinema.. its all the same here. Subha

The perfect way to bring a level playing field in education would’ve been mentoring and close interaction without any reference to a person’s community, caste…. apparently this does not happen in small towns and rural areas.

Four days back, i was fixing my chappal in my native place… The guy who fixed it was talking to a friend about a wedding he did not go… the reason he gave for not attending was ‘jaadhi vidyasam parpanga’.. he did not say to me.. it was a casual remark …. but thats the reality.

If he does not expect fair treatment in a wedding, how is he going to interact with the rest of the population and gain knowledge and information?

I’ve had views similar to yours sometime back. I am not so sure anymore.
I know about people from Bihar who had cleared IIT-JEE… but those seem to be exceptions rather than the rule.. Even there the students had active mentoring…

I’ve heard this argument about the number of years it has been in force.
Its not as if all other initiatives had progressed at desired pace in India.

Unrelated note:
Check out the Wiki for Chennai MRTS. It had taken 24 years to build a tardy, incomplete MRTS for a city.

So that’s a taste of how fast and effective things work.

The person should’ve been at least 50. I don’t think his son or daughter could compete with my cousin who is in Bangalore. Exceptions are not the norms.

Regarding Religion,
Religious conversions and terror do get sanctity and support from religious schools.

Though it is true that religion especially Hinduism and Buddhism keeps the masses dormant, peaceful in India.
I am not against religion. But I am against according it a level higher than ordinary folks and keeping it closer to the powers that be.
Religious institutions has political dimensions IMHO.

Indian history do have examples where religious heads had been close to the rulers who had committed grave atrocities with the full sanction of these religious heads.

Philosophy, literature, spirituality etc are a different ball game.

Like what Indira Parthasarathy says in Vedapurathu Vyabarigal, religion, politics, cinema.. its all the same here.

]]> By: Subha http://expertdabbler.com/2008/10/15/india-2020-wishful-thinking/#comment-54859 Subha Thu, 16 Oct 2008 13:28:15 +0000 http://expertdabbler.com/2008/10/15/india-2020-wishful-thinking/#comment-54859 I take exception to your stand on reservations and religion. Reservations -- I am firmly against it whether its rural/urban, caste-based, community-based, religion-based. The cause of the malaise is elsewhere. 30 years of reservation haven't gotten us anywhere. #2 -- the more religion disappears from people's lives, the more lawless the nation will become. This is esp. true for India where the fear of god is the only thing that keeps things under control. I take exception to your stand on reservations and religion. Reservations — I am firmly against it whether its rural/urban, caste-based, community-based, religion-based. The cause of the malaise is elsewhere. 30 years of reservation haven’t gotten us anywhere. #2 — the more religion disappears from people’s lives, the more lawless the nation will become. This is esp. true for India where the fear of god is the only thing that keeps things under control.

]]> By: prabukarthik http://expertdabbler.com/2008/10/15/india-2020-wishful-thinking/#comment-54848 prabukarthik Thu, 16 Oct 2008 09:38:13 +0000 http://expertdabbler.com/2008/10/15/india-2020-wishful-thinking/#comment-54848 SM The idea is, assuming you have all the powers in the world, it still takes some effort to come up with a policy framework to develop this nation... This is by no means perfect or even close to good... but the more you think on these lines, the better we get... SM

The idea is, assuming you have all the powers in the world, it still takes some effort to come up with a policy framework to develop this nation…
This is by no means perfect or even close to good… but the more you think on these lines, the better we get…

]]> By: Swaminathan Moorthy http://expertdabbler.com/2008/10/15/india-2020-wishful-thinking/#comment-54845 Swaminathan Moorthy Thu, 16 Oct 2008 08:24:45 +0000 http://expertdabbler.com/2008/10/15/india-2020-wishful-thinking/#comment-54845 I meant the movie Citizen Part II I meant the movie Citizen Part II

]]> By: Swaminathan Moorthy http://expertdabbler.com/2008/10/15/india-2020-wishful-thinking/#comment-54844 Swaminathan Moorthy Thu, 16 Oct 2008 08:24:21 +0000 http://expertdabbler.com/2008/10/15/india-2020-wishful-thinking/#comment-54844 PK, Citizen II eduthudalaam. :) PK, Citizen II eduthudalaam. :)

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