Comments on: To the Boss http://expertdabbler.com/2008/10/17/to-the-boss/ Rombo nallavan Tue, 22 May 2012 20:04:12 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.1 By: prabukarthik http://expertdabbler.com/2008/10/17/to-the-boss/#comment-55781 prabukarthik Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:07:09 +0000 http://expertdabbler.com/2008/10/17/to-the-boss/#comment-55781 pradeep I agree man. thx! pradeep

I agree man. thx!

]]> By: pradeep http://expertdabbler.com/2008/10/17/to-the-boss/#comment-55706 pradeep Mon, 27 Oct 2008 05:03:31 +0000 http://expertdabbler.com/2008/10/17/to-the-boss/#comment-55706 great post! An entire Indian generation has grown up watching the genius of Tendulkar. I am one of those die hard worshippers. Long live the legacy of Sachin Ramesh Tendulkar. great post!
An entire Indian generation has grown up watching the genius of Tendulkar. I am one of those die hard worshippers.
Long live the legacy of Sachin Ramesh Tendulkar.

]]> By: prabukarthik http://expertdabbler.com/2008/10/17/to-the-boss/#comment-55152 prabukarthik Sun, 19 Oct 2008 19:22:05 +0000 http://expertdabbler.com/2008/10/17/to-the-boss/#comment-55152 A well knit, hard fighting team is better than any individual, however talented he might be. India is there is more Hero worship per capita...totallly agree. That started from Ayodhya days.... seruppu vechu ellam aatchi nadandhirukku... 'Potri paadade penna.. thevar kaalade mannee' nu paate iruku la. That apart, I dont think there is anything wrong with appreciating a performer. That's not contravening the Aussie culture. Infact from what I see, the Aussies like our man much more than any other Indian cricketer. A well knit, hard fighting team is better than any individual, however talented he might be.

India is there is more Hero worship per capita…totallly agree.
That started from Ayodhya days…. seruppu vechu ellam aatchi nadandhirukku…

‘Potri paadade penna.. thevar kaalade mannee’ nu paate iruku la.

That apart, I dont think there is anything wrong with appreciating a performer. That’s not contravening the Aussie culture. Infact from what I see, the Aussies like our man much more than any other Indian cricketer.

]]> By: BNB http://expertdabbler.com/2008/10/17/to-the-boss/#comment-55129 BNB Sun, 19 Oct 2008 12:04:53 +0000 http://expertdabbler.com/2008/10/17/to-the-boss/#comment-55129 Boss, I thought the first-half second half argument was reserved for tamil movies. Looks like a first innings second innings argument works for cricket as well ;-) Seriously though, regarding Aussie domination there was a marvelous article in Mid-day last year, can't seem to reach their archives. I wrote a post referring to it here: http://broken-news.blogspot.com/2007/04/no-prima-donnas-down-under.html Boss, I thought the first-half second half argument was reserved for tamil movies. Looks like a first innings second innings argument works for cricket as well ;-)

Seriously though, regarding Aussie domination there was a marvelous article in Mid-day last year, can’t seem to reach their archives. I wrote a post referring to it here:
http://broken-news.blogspot.com/2007/04/no-prima-donnas-down-under.html

]]> By: prabukarthik http://expertdabbler.com/2008/10/17/to-the-boss/#comment-55127 prabukarthik Sun, 19 Oct 2008 11:41:12 +0000 http://expertdabbler.com/2008/10/17/to-the-boss/#comment-55127 BNB On an unrelated note: I think the Aussies in this series should've won the First Test. They should not have let the Indians to pile up 450+ in the second one happening now. All these happened because they dont have two bowlers of the calibre of Glen McGrath and Shane Warne. Lot of test matches are won by the componding power of misery for batsmen... for which you need great bowlers. That simply cannot be compensated by good batsmen like Ponting, Hayden etc. This does not make Ponting any less capable or talented. You will have an opposition which should've been bundled out for 300 go on to pile up 450, then you are under pressure, you also lose time to plan and press for a win, you find your strategies not working because the bowlers are not great enough... and suddenly your own records will look less flattering. If Ponting should continue to look as awesome as he is made out to be, he should be fortunate to have great bowlers in the next year or two. Otherwise I would be very interested to see his records in the next five years. BNB

On an unrelated note:
I think the Aussies in this series should’ve won the First Test.
They should not have let the Indians to pile up 450+ in the second one happening now. All these happened because they dont have two bowlers of the calibre of Glen McGrath and Shane Warne. Lot of test matches are won by the componding power of misery for batsmen… for which you need great bowlers.

That simply cannot be compensated by good batsmen like Ponting, Hayden etc. This does not make Ponting any less capable or talented.

You will have an opposition which should’ve been bundled out for 300 go on to pile up 450, then you are under pressure, you also lose time to plan and press for a win, you find your strategies not working because the bowlers are not great enough… and suddenly your own records will look less flattering.

If Ponting should continue to look as awesome as he is made out to be, he should be fortunate to have great bowlers in the next year or two. Otherwise I would be very interested to see his records in the next five years.

]]> By: prabukarthik http://expertdabbler.com/2008/10/17/to-the-boss/#comment-55124 prabukarthik Sun, 19 Oct 2008 11:19:37 +0000 http://expertdabbler.com/2008/10/17/to-the-boss/#comment-55124 BNB >>The correlation between an India win and a good performance from him is rather weak. First we need to define what is a good performance. A 40? or 50? or only a 100+ will do? Expectation from him are so high that a 50 from him will not be construed as good enough, while a 50 from Steve Waugh will be remembered for his fighting qualities. We have unique themes for every great player and we only remember those knocks which are consistent with that themes IMHO. People talk about second innings average without knowing that Steve Waugh had a second innings average of about 32 while his first innings avg. is 50. That does not make him any less great. You say this and people will say it is not about statistics. As if second innings avg is closer to science fiction but not statistics. http://www.rediff.com/cricket/2002/aug/21guest.htm I lost interest in Cricket post 2005. I don't follow it with the earlier intensity in the last two years. But in general I think its not a great idea to play for 19 years. He started early. The folks who were somewhere in their professions were over the hill while this guy just keeps going. I think a lot of Indians are just bored of seeing him on the cricket field because they are moving on while this guy simply refuses to leave the arena. The attitude is, 'Have you not scored and earned enough, why dont you just get lost!.' BNB

>>The correlation between an India win and a good performance from him is rather weak.

First we need to define what is a good performance. A 40? or 50? or only a 100+ will do? Expectation from him are so high that a 50 from him will not be construed as good enough, while a 50 from Steve Waugh will be remembered for his fighting qualities. We have unique themes for every great player and we only remember those knocks which are consistent with that themes IMHO.

People talk about second innings average without knowing that Steve Waugh had a second innings average of about 32 while his first innings avg. is 50. That does not make him any less great. You say this and people will say it is not about statistics. As if second innings avg is closer to science fiction but not statistics.

http://www.rediff.com/cricket/2002/aug/21guest.htm

I lost interest in Cricket post 2005. I don’t follow it with the earlier intensity in the last two years.

But in general I think its not a great idea to play for 19 years. He started early. The folks who were somewhere in their professions were over the hill while this guy just keeps going.

I think a lot of Indians are just bored of seeing him on the cricket field because they are moving on while this guy simply refuses to leave the arena.

The attitude is, ‘Have you not scored and earned enough, why dont you just get lost!.’

]]> By: BNB http://expertdabbler.com/2008/10/17/to-the-boss/#comment-55107 BNB Sun, 19 Oct 2008 06:21:52 +0000 http://expertdabbler.com/2008/10/17/to-the-boss/#comment-55107 I meant "not to take anything away from the man". I meant “not to take anything away from the man”.

]]> By: BNB http://expertdabbler.com/2008/10/17/to-the-boss/#comment-55106 BNB Sun, 19 Oct 2008 06:19:58 +0000 http://expertdabbler.com/2008/10/17/to-the-boss/#comment-55106 Not to take anything away the man. But ... Like most prodigies he turned out to be something to talk about, not someone who actually decisively changed the fortunes of his team. Post-Gavaskar most of the gains have been from better captaincy and other factors. The correlation between an India win and a good performance from him is rather weak. His inability or unwillingness to be the captain at a very early stage also shows a certain type of selfishness - maybe he wants to retain his pristine glory and not be blamed for anything. Nobody can dispute though that he has been responsible for many moments of great pleasure, some of the hair raising variety. Here's some proof that genius is most of the time of showcase value, not of utility value. That fits in very well in a feudal society that puts a tremendous value on symbolic actions and Icons. Not to take anything away the man. But …

Like most prodigies he turned out to be something to talk about, not someone who actually decisively changed the fortunes of his team. Post-Gavaskar most of the gains have been from better captaincy and other factors. The correlation between an India win and a good performance from him is rather weak. His inability or unwillingness to be the captain at a very early stage also shows a certain type of selfishness - maybe he wants to retain his pristine glory and not be blamed for anything. Nobody can dispute though that he has been responsible for many moments of great pleasure, some of the hair raising variety. Here’s some proof that genius is most of the time of showcase value, not of utility value. That fits in very well in a feudal society that puts a tremendous value on symbolic actions and Icons.

]]> By: prabukarthik http://expertdabbler.com/2008/10/17/to-the-boss/#comment-55064 prabukarthik Sat, 18 Oct 2008 18:45:10 +0000 http://expertdabbler.com/2008/10/17/to-the-boss/#comment-55064 For thhose who like it in Thamizh.. http://www.sanakannan.com/sachin.html For thhose who like it in Thamizh..

http://www.sanakannan.com/sachin.html

]]> By: prabukarthik http://expertdabbler.com/2008/10/17/to-the-boss/#comment-55063 prabukarthik Sat, 18 Oct 2008 18:44:30 +0000 http://expertdabbler.com/2008/10/17/to-the-boss/#comment-55063 Karthik Thanks man. Times change... cricket does not occupy my pscyhe the way it used to... but my respect for the cleanest, most committed, least controversial, most well behaved super star of the cricket world in the last two decades has remained the same. I don't know if I've seen a Karma yogi. But the boss should be somewhere close. Karthik

Thanks man. Times change… cricket does not occupy my pscyhe the way it used to… but my respect for the cleanest, most committed, least controversial, most well behaved super star of the cricket world in the last two decades has remained the same.

I don’t know if I’ve seen a Karma yogi. But the boss should be somewhere close.

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