Comments on: Dogfooding http://expertdabbler.com/2008/11/04/dogfooding/ Rombo nallavan Tue, 22 May 2012 20:13:33 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.1 By: prabukarthik http://expertdabbler.com/2008/11/04/dogfooding/#comment-100946 prabukarthik Tue, 18 May 2010 20:46:10 +0000 http://expertdabbler.com/2008/11/04/dogfooding/#comment-100946 A person is free to work in X while liking Y. Thats not what i'm talking about. Ideally there should be R and D on bing @ google.. again thats not what i'm talking abt... Its using google docs on day to day basis @ microsoft. Thats exactly what i'm talking about. If you do not consume your own product, how do you expect the consumers to..is my question. A person is free to work in X while liking Y. Thats not what i’m talking about.

Ideally there should be R and D on bing @ google.. again thats not what i’m talking abt…

Its using google docs on day to day basis @ microsoft. Thats exactly what i’m talking about.

If you do not consume your own product, how do you expect the consumers to..is my question.

]]> By: RA http://expertdabbler.com/2008/11/04/dogfooding/#comment-100942 RA Tue, 18 May 2010 19:58:42 +0000 http://expertdabbler.com/2008/11/04/dogfooding/#comment-100942 Absolutly NOT, However from where I see you still could have a right to choose what you like rather force to use just because you do. In your use case: I think a person who may like MAC can work at DELL. i DO NOT SEE ANY ISSUE THERE of Mr X liking Mac working for DELL. Well it would be all together a different ball game if your corporate policy allows you to do. But you know what the more I think about this, there could be a possibility to do R&D on bing @ Google and vice versa. So its debatable. Would you agree? Absolutly NOT, However from where I see you still could have a right to choose what you like rather force to use just because you do.

In your use case: I think a person who may like MAC can work at DELL. i DO NOT SEE ANY ISSUE THERE of Mr X liking Mac working for DELL.

Well it would be all together a different ball game if your corporate policy allows you to do. But you know what the more I think about this, there could be a possibility to do R&D on bing @ Google and vice versa.

So its debatable. Would you agree?

]]> By: prabukarthik http://expertdabbler.com/2008/11/04/dogfooding/#comment-100933 prabukarthik Tue, 18 May 2010 18:54:20 +0000 http://expertdabbler.com/2008/11/04/dogfooding/#comment-100933 RA Yes. Assuming you are a drinker... what kind of AD is that if you get good drinks from your competitor rather than your own store? If DELL employees use Apple mac as a corporate policy, will it be nice to sell DELL to customers? RA

Yes. Assuming you are a drinker…
what kind of AD is that if you get good drinks from your competitor rather than your own store?

If DELL employees use Apple mac as a corporate policy, will it be nice to sell DELL to customers?

]]> By: RA http://expertdabbler.com/2008/11/04/dogfooding/#comment-100930 RA Tue, 18 May 2010 18:25:26 +0000 http://expertdabbler.com/2008/11/04/dogfooding/#comment-100930 "If you are running an ‘arisi mandi’ you better cook your meal from the rice you sell. " I not neccessarly agree with this as a person who is running a Liquor store/ Lottery store? Do they have to drink the liquor to be able to qualify? “If you are running an ‘arisi mandi’ you better cook your meal from the rice you sell. ”

I not neccessarly agree with this as a person who is running a Liquor store/ Lottery store?

Do they have to drink the liquor to be able to qualify?

]]> By: prabukarthik http://expertdabbler.com/2008/11/04/dogfooding/#comment-57089 prabukarthik Wed, 19 Nov 2008 02:30:32 +0000 http://expertdabbler.com/2008/11/04/dogfooding/#comment-57089 Shankar, I dont understand the concept of 'innovating' when (a) we don't use the product we build (b) we know very little of the competition (c) there is a huge gap between the customer and the development teams >>Ideas are important for product companies than quality of product I don't agree. Lots of times, you will realize the guy who does things first turns a loser simply because the guy who did next could do it better, faster, cheaper. Innovation and ideas are important when there is a tendency to treat a good product/ service as cash cow and keep milking it forever. On the other extreme we can't be 'ideating' when we are far removed from our actual product, actual customer and actual competition. Shankar,

I dont understand the concept of ‘innovating’ when
(a) we don’t use the product we build
(b) we know very little of the competition
(c) there is a huge gap between the customer and the development teams

>>Ideas are important for product companies than quality of product

I don’t agree. Lots of times, you will realize the guy who does things first turns a loser simply because the guy who did next could do it better, faster, cheaper.

Innovation and ideas are important when there is a tendency to treat a good product/ service as cash cow and keep milking it forever.
On the other extreme we can’t be ‘ideating’ when we are far removed from our actual product, actual customer and actual competition.

]]> By: Shankar http://expertdabbler.com/2008/11/04/dogfooding/#comment-57073 Shankar Tue, 18 Nov 2008 18:55:38 +0000 http://expertdabbler.com/2008/11/04/dogfooding/#comment-57073 Prabhu, If you are running a 'arisi mandi' it doesn't means you have to eat rice 3 times a day. I feel some product companies are surviving because of innovative ideas. Ideas are important for product companies than quality of product. Google is also not cent percent perfect, still google is fetching some bulls**ts for some searches. Not least, We have to follow 'Nobody is Perfect' Principle... Prabhu,

If you are running a ‘arisi mandi’ it doesn’t means you have to eat rice 3 times a day. I feel some product companies are surviving because of innovative ideas. Ideas are important for product companies than quality of product. Google is also not cent percent perfect, still google is fetching some bulls**ts for some searches.

Not least, We have to follow ‘Nobody is Perfect’ Principle…

]]> By: BNB http://expertdabbler.com/2008/11/04/dogfooding/#comment-56443 BNB Thu, 06 Nov 2008 04:09:24 +0000 http://expertdabbler.com/2008/11/04/dogfooding/#comment-56443 Yes, In some of those MNC branch cases, it's even worse, since it's again a "done deal". The India Office is there for some book-keeping trick /tax purpose or whatever, although they spin it otherwise. Even if their original intentions are right they bring in managers with a traditional outlook - that Microsoft India mail is a classic example. Yes, In some of those MNC branch cases, it’s even worse, since it’s again a “done deal”. The India Office is there for some book-keeping trick /tax purpose or whatever, although they spin it otherwise. Even if their original intentions are right they bring in managers with a traditional outlook - that Microsoft India mail is a classic example.

]]> By: prabukarthik http://expertdabbler.com/2008/11/04/dogfooding/#comment-56440 prabukarthik Thu, 06 Nov 2008 02:57:55 +0000 http://expertdabbler.com/2008/11/04/dogfooding/#comment-56440 BNB I am not sure the situation is very different even when companies themselves setup shops here. BNB

I am not sure the situation is very different even when companies themselves setup shops here.

]]> By: BNB http://expertdabbler.com/2008/11/04/dogfooding/#comment-56439 BNB Thu, 06 Nov 2008 01:58:35 +0000 http://expertdabbler.com/2008/11/04/dogfooding/#comment-56439 The roots of the mediocrity of the software produced by Indian service companies lies in the nature of the deal that resulted in that software development effort. Most of the outsourcing deals are "done deals" - they are usually multi-year/multi-month contracts that go on regardless of the quality. They are high touch business deals involving shady deal making and clueless managements in the US. The end user is never involved and even if he is it is kind of half hearted, going through the motions kind of thing. How many cancellations do you know of ? European deals are slightly different, often they come with a penalty clause. In between all this middle management drama about innovation, technology for the clueless employees. The roots of the mediocrity of the software produced by Indian service companies lies in the nature of the deal that resulted in that software development effort. Most of the outsourcing deals are “done deals” - they are usually multi-year/multi-month contracts that go on regardless of the quality. They are high touch business deals involving shady deal making and clueless managements in the US. The end user is never involved and even if he is it is kind of half hearted, going through the motions kind of thing. How many cancellations do you know of ? European deals are slightly different, often they come with a penalty clause.

In between all this middle management drama about innovation, technology for the clueless employees.

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