Comments on: Stereotypes http://expertdabbler.com/2009/03/04/stereotypes/ Rombo nallavan Tue, 22 May 2012 20:32:57 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.1 By: viji http://expertdabbler.com/2009/03/04/stereotypes/#comment-62121 viji Sun, 08 Mar 2009 03:30:33 +0000 http://expertdabbler.com/2009/03/04/stereotypes/#comment-62121 Please add your blog articles in www.newspaanai.com and share it with other readers worldwide. www.newspaanai.com is a tamil social bookmarking website where in you can post articles in english/tamil. For easy adding of your articles please visit http://www.newspaanai.com/easylink.php Please add your blog articles in www.newspaanai.com and share it with other readers worldwide. www.newspaanai.com is a tamil social bookmarking website where in you can post articles in english/tamil. For easy adding of your articles please visit http://www.newspaanai.com/easylink.php

]]> By: BNB http://expertdabbler.com/2009/03/04/stereotypes/#comment-62007 BNB Thu, 05 Mar 2009 14:28:34 +0000 http://expertdabbler.com/2009/03/04/stereotypes/#comment-62007 dagalti makes a great point about ones own experience. The flip side of that is that another experience to the contrary or one that exposes a different side of the subject of prejudice or strong opinions is the most effective @ removing or modifying it. The influence of parents, relatives, friends early on life also plays a great role (next only to one's personal experience). This whole notion of needing to know something inside out or have perfect proof before we become "qualified" to talk about is also rather puzzling. Just imagine applying this to politicians. Human behaviour is a rather weakly understood area despite all the punditry you hear - most of the explanations are just after the fact rationalisations. dagalti makes a great point about ones own experience. The flip side of that is that another experience to the contrary or one that exposes a different side of the subject of prejudice or strong opinions is the most effective @ removing or modifying it. The influence of parents, relatives, friends early on life also plays a great role (next only to one’s personal experience). This whole notion of needing to know something inside out or have perfect proof before we become “qualified” to talk about is also rather puzzling. Just imagine applying this to politicians. Human behaviour is a rather weakly understood area despite all the punditry you hear - most of the explanations are just after the fact rationalisations.

]]> By: dagalti http://expertdabbler.com/2009/03/04/stereotypes/#comment-61991 dagalti Thu, 05 Mar 2009 11:24:35 +0000 http://expertdabbler.com/2009/03/04/stereotypes/#comment-61991 ada summA sonnEnga... //There you go with one generalization.. i am as related to engineering as vadivelu is to einstein!// It was meant that way PK. Arithmetic literacy = Engineering degree is thamiz paNpAdu And much more...Much to the consternation of my engineer cousin my pAtti used to say things like : "kaNNA...andha tubelight eRiya maattEngradhu....ennannu konjam pArEn". I, of course would be spared of the tasks because I was automatically assumed I would not be equal to the demands of the task of twisting it back to light. Allowing me the opportunity to do what I was assumed to be equipped to do: sit back, watch and perhaps write a poem: ஒரு ட்யூப்லைட்டே ட்யூப்லைட்டை திருகுகிறதே ! ada summA sonnEnga…

//There you go with one generalization.. i am as related to engineering as vadivelu is to einstein!//
It was meant that way PK.
Arithmetic literacy = Engineering degree is thamiz paNpAdu

And much more…Much to the consternation of my engineer cousin my pAtti used to say things like : “kaNNA…andha tubelight eRiya maattEngradhu….ennannu konjam pArEn”. I, of course would be spared of the tasks because I was automatically assumed I would not be equal to the demands of the task of twisting it back to light. Allowing me the opportunity to do what I was assumed to be equipped to do: sit back, watch and perhaps write a poem:

ஒரு
ட்யூப்லைட்டே
ட்யூப்லைட்டை
திருகுகிறதே
!

]]> By: prabukarthik http://expertdabbler.com/2009/03/04/stereotypes/#comment-61988 prabukarthik Thu, 05 Mar 2009 09:55:16 +0000 http://expertdabbler.com/2009/03/04/stereotypes/#comment-61988 dagalti, Thanks for the explanation. Yeah that makes sense... >>'There is perhaps some basis to it ' Precisely. Idhu kooda oru vidhamaana abstraction in a way..we just hide all the ifs and buts and exceptions and just say the essence. >>indha engineer-gaLE ippidi dhaan… There you go with one generalization.. i am as related to engineering as vadivelu is to einstein! One click and this plugin will be disabled... but my blog will become the web equivalent of an unmanned public toilet in India! dagalti,

Thanks for the explanation. Yeah that makes sense…

>>’There is perhaps some basis to it ‘

Precisely.
Idhu kooda oru vidhamaana abstraction in a way..we just hide all the ifs and buts and exceptions and just say the essence.

>>indha engineer-gaLE ippidi dhaan…

There you go with one generalization.. i am as related to engineering as vadivelu is to einstein!

One click and this plugin will be disabled… but my blog will become the web equivalent of an unmanned public toilet in India!

]]> By: dagalti http://expertdabbler.com/2009/03/04/stereotypes/#comment-61985 dagalti Thu, 05 Mar 2009 07:43:25 +0000 http://expertdabbler.com/2009/03/04/stereotypes/#comment-61985 Accretion (I thing) means layer adding upon layer. Rather than dismissing prejudice outright as something disgusting and unreasonable, Naipaul says it is perhaps something that is built on several cases of observations, impressions handed down through generations etc. It perhaps does not make its own case but it sure cannot be destroyed by showing one or a few contradictions. There is perhaps some basis to it , it may have been disprioportionately received and remembered and ingrained in public consciousness but is rarely baseless. It is quite an explosive point of view, particularly in the 'diverse' country like ours. It requires a sense of balance to even consider that viewpoint without being annoyed or trying to smell motives. PS: By asking us to add 4 and 4 to be able to comment here, you are discriminating against the arithmetically challenged. indha engineer-gaLE ippidi dhaan... Accretion (I thing) means layer adding upon layer.
Rather than dismissing prejudice outright as something disgusting and unreasonable, Naipaul says it is perhaps something that is built on several cases of observations, impressions handed down through generations etc. It perhaps does not make its own case but it sure cannot be destroyed by showing one or a few contradictions. There is perhaps some basis to it , it may have been disprioportionately received and remembered and ingrained in public consciousness but is rarely baseless.

It is quite an explosive point of view, particularly in the ‘diverse’ country like ours. It requires a sense of balance to even consider that viewpoint without being annoyed or trying to smell motives.

PS: By asking us to add 4 and 4 to be able to comment here, you are discriminating against the arithmetically challenged. indha engineer-gaLE ippidi dhaan…

]]> By: prabukarthik http://expertdabbler.com/2009/03/04/stereotypes/#comment-61983 prabukarthik Thu, 05 Mar 2009 07:23:57 +0000 http://expertdabbler.com/2009/03/04/stereotypes/#comment-61983 dagalti India is a bundle of contradictions for sure. I did not understand the VS Naipaul statement... accretion adhu idhu na enakku purila ba! dagalti

India is a bundle of contradictions for sure.

I did not understand the VS Naipaul statement…
accretion adhu idhu na enakku purila ba!

]]> By: prabukarthik http://expertdabbler.com/2009/03/04/stereotypes/#comment-61982 prabukarthik Thu, 05 Mar 2009 07:22:16 +0000 http://expertdabbler.com/2009/03/04/stereotypes/#comment-61982 fathima Exactly! I too have faced very reasonable folks. But that does not make me approach auto drivers with a positive/open mind. All things being equal, one tends to play safe. fathima

Exactly!

I too have faced very reasonable folks. But that does not make me approach auto drivers with a positive/open mind. All things being equal, one tends to play safe.

]]> By: Fathima http://expertdabbler.com/2009/03/04/stereotypes/#comment-61981 Fathima Thu, 05 Mar 2009 06:16:08 +0000 http://expertdabbler.com/2009/03/04/stereotypes/#comment-61981 One eg of generalization: Auto drivers are bad! But I have come across reasonable and helping ones in Chennai, Bangalore and Hyderabad One eg of generalization:
Auto drivers are bad!

But I have come across reasonable and helping ones in Chennai, Bangalore and Hyderabad

]]> By: dagalti http://expertdabbler.com/2009/03/04/stereotypes/#comment-61980 dagalti Thu, 05 Mar 2009 06:14:46 +0000 http://expertdabbler.com/2009/03/04/stereotypes/#comment-61980 "Whatever you can rightly say about India, the opposite is also true" - Amartya Sen, quoting his professor at Cambridge: Joan Robinson "Prejudice is based on accretion of observation and cannot be removed by simple contradiction" - V.S. Naipaul GM: pushpam S: adhaaNNE...neenga solra maadhiriyum sollalaam....avar solrA maadhiriyum sollalaam... “Whatever you can rightly say about India, the opposite is also true”
- Amartya Sen, quoting his professor at Cambridge: Joan Robinson

“Prejudice is based on accretion of observation and cannot be removed by simple contradiction” - V.S. Naipaul

GM: pushpam
S: adhaaNNE…neenga solra maadhiriyum sollalaam….avar solrA maadhiriyum sollalaam…

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