sorry for responding late. Yeah kothanaars becoming managers is not new. But In Indian IT, as BNB says, there is a strong incentive for damagers to be that way.. i find it systemic.

Hmm, anyway, most Senior Level damagers are all senior level kothanaars thaan.

Ella groundworkum naama pannanum, aana oru nerathula oru Doubt Dhanabaaluvai namma kooda serthu vitutu, naama velaiyai seekiram mudikanum nu oru anbu kattalai poduvaanga.

Antha Doubt Dhanbaalu oru sariyaana ar** kisser aa irupaan !!!

All in a Day’s work, at the end of the day.

You know what, I did think about that for a moment, aprom suthama matter post aagidum nu vittuten :))

“…there is no way out with Indian managers actually.” - Correct ! Once I was eating at Gopi Iyengar’s near the west gopuram of Meenakshi temple (during the glory days of the restaurant) when I heard one of the frustrated staff members telling his colleague: “Oye, Indha Pozhapula saavu dhaan orey vazhi oye”. I went in search of this sage a couple of years back during a trip to MDU - couldn’t find him, Gopi Iyengar had changed hands.

> Damager: No No No, we need to push up things, 9 months is the time line only if you try alone.

idhu ipdi irundha ?

Damager: No No No, we need to push up things, 9 months is the time line only if I try alone.

I know about Fred Brookes and I do know this law though I have not read that Mythical man month yet. Indha book PMP certifications laam pannina makkalukku theriyadhadhu dhaan aacharyam.

I took that analogy from one Buffett quote…

I completely agree with your take on this…
This is incentive caused bias or economists solra madhiri ‘agency costs’

The only way to.. well there is no way out with Indian managers actually.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mythical_Man-Month

Fred Brooks wrote one of the best books on this topic more than 3 decades back and that includes the 9 wives delivering baby in 1 month analogy. In all these years I have known only one indian manager who was even aware of that book (but he too only had a theoretical understanding). If you talk to the real good programmers or managers in the US, most of them know have read ‘The Mythical Man Month’ and it’s easily one of the all-time favourites. It enjoys a cult status.

The root cause here is the pre-dominance of service companies which rely heavily on time and materials, head count etc to fleece their customers. So long as the head count based charging continues there is no end in sight. But this is not the only reason, after all Fred Brooks wrote his books after his experience in developing IBM’s OS/360. Some other links:

How many people report into you ?

Why do we have so many jobs in Bangalore ?

In Indian companies it serves the middle mgmt’s interest to stuff as many people into a project as possible.